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and then some

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and then some

And more than has already been stated. The incumbent is so popular that you're going to have to campaign and then some in order to beat her. You will have to train and then some if you want to make the basketball team—there are so many good players this year. A: "This dessert is very rich." B: "And then some! I don't think I can finish it."

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and then some

and even more; and more than has been mentioned. John is going to have to run like a deer and then some to win this race. The cook put the amount of salt called for into the soup and then some.

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and then some

and even more It looked like 20,000 people and then some were crowded into the stadium. Investors in the business got their money back and then some.

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and then some

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and even more It looked like 20,000 people and then some at the demonstration. 'Did Joe give you a hard time?' 'Yeah, and then some!'

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and then some

And considerably more, as in I need all the help I can get and then some, or The speaker went on for an hour and then some. This idiom may originally have come from and some, a much older Scottish expression used in the same way. [Early 1900s]

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and then some

Informal

With considerably more in addition: This project will take all our skill and then some.

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